Posts by edmond dantes

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HLC talks to cease

by dozy in

it has long been the practise for hlc members to give occasional (usually annually) public & special talks and local needs items on blood & related issues at meetings.

these were often quite well organised with powerpoint presentations , handouts and open q & a session.. as of jan 2008 , the wts has written to all hlc members telling them that they can no longer do this & has written to bodies of elders telling them that they can no longer invite brothers to give talks , especially concerning the "advance medical directive document".. a hlc friend tells me that the wts apparently are further wanting to distance themselves from possible legal action and are also concerned that some hlc members are putting their own slant on the wts "conscience matters"..

edmond dantes

It looks as if the Society of Blind Leaders is trying to wash the blood of human sacrifice from off their hands. It is more difficult than they imagine because their past record shows they are well and truly guilty.They can run but they can't hide their blood guilt will stand up to the forensics.

Their crimes of causing death by deception will not go away.

Their crimes might haunt them in death .Charles Dickens might have been right when he wrote that as a warning to Scrooge he was visited by the ghost in chains who said " I forged them link by link while in life."

How many chain links have been forged on to their followers by the Watchtower Society?

Watch Tower board members alter your ways before it is too late.

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My Husband found out about this site...

by cognac in

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i told him that i have no intention of leaving.... he told me that i was like "a dog returning to its vomit"... .

edmond dantes

Cognac,

Be calm and take it one step at a time ,softly ,softly catchy monkey.

When the time comes tell him that you no longer want the Jehovahs Witnesses' as your religious advisors and when he asks why , tell him that you have gained a far better understanding and insight into their errors and malpractice than you could have dreamt possible. Also you can tell him without getting into an argument that he could find it for himself as the information is out there if he cares to research it.

Best Wishes.

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Will Awareness & Understanding Eliminate War by Making it Unexceptable?

by frankiespeakin in

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will enough people eventually get it so that a real change occures in most governemnts or will it just keep going like it has been for a long time with wars being fought to gain control of weath and people,, and the whole human race gets wiped out?.

one of the first things that has to happen is that people need to be "enlightened", and i think most of us here already know that "corporate owned new media" has little to offer in that direction, many in this country, and many other countries have the internet in thier own homes and independant news sources at thier finger tips(isn't wikipedia great) and great search engines like google and others, this has to be a gradually gaining momentem, source of enlightenment around the globe.you might even say the internet may be a source of medicine to combat this ideological thought virus or as some like to use the term memes(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meme) .

lets face it the internet if used wisely and even not so wisely is a great source for deprogramming both the bullshit feed to us by the wt but also government&corporation inspired propaganda.. anyway i think nobody could disagree, that when enough people become enlightened(a critical mass is reached) that war would end simply because the wrongness is so obvious.

edmond dantes

It's a tribal problem and once all the tribes (nations) of the earth reach a state of unity, when all peoples on the planet work in harmony with one another then and only then will war be eliminated.

What we need is a United States of the World where no one country would ever dream of attacking another because it would be like a single state in America, for instance, attacking another state within the U S A ., or the Uk attacking Canada or Australia , it's unthinkable.I can't imagine England attacking Scotland ever again because we are passed all that now I hope.

What we need is a really good reason to unify and prosper .

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Why the Watchtowers "War" argument is totally bogus

by drew sagan in

from my own personal experience the watchtowers position on war always appeared to be one of the most difficult issues to navigate.

a number of times when i was first leaving the wts i spoke with jws who all used this argument to show me how "wrong" i was about the "truth".

while i knew the watchtowers arguments where wrong, i had a very difficult time figuring out exactly why it was wrong.

edmond dantes

This is an interesting subject and one of the most barmy doctrines put forward by the Borg.

Thy say you can defend yourself and family but you can't defend your next door neighbour nationally.

One of the most stupid remarks I used to hear was " you will be pleased to know during WW2 no one was killed by a JW." of course the answers to that are ; Where was the JW when my home was being overun at gun point? Where was the JW when the invaders murdered the innocents? Where was the JW when my liberty was taken from me at the point of a gun?

The JW was not even carrying a stretcher .

Whatever mankind has achieved, whatever progress has been made throughout its entire history ,whatever brilliant results have been made,it's been brought about by blood, and toil.Whatever blessings we have today did not come about by accident things were learnt and improved by past mistakes .It didn't improve by waiting around for God Almighty to act. Human history has proved that.

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New batch of covers to caption. Your captions appreciated.

by Wasanelder Once in

ok, here's a batch for fun with covers 20, let's make them amazing!

here you go!.

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edmond dantes

DEC 08.

Caption. DO YOU STAY TOO LONG ON EACH DOOR STEP WHILE OUT IN THE MINISTRY?

ARE YOU FAVOURABLY ATTIRED WHILE OUT IN SERVICE?

DO FIRST IMPRESSIONS REALLY COUNT WHEN PIONEERING?

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New batch of covers to caption. Your captions appreciated.

by Wasanelder Once in

ok, here's a batch for fun with covers 20, let's make them amazing!

here you go!.

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edmond dantes

January 2008,

Caption. "WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS WHEN YOU FIRST SAW IT"

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Hello people!!!

by Superslave in

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im fairly new to this site & just wanted to make my presence known.

ive been away from the borg for nearly a year now (whoo hoo) without anyone noticing (so much for that brotherly luuuuuuurrvvve) been reading some of the posts & wow.

some stuff i already knew about, but a lot i did not.. was wondering how many of you are from the uk?

edmond dantes

Hello Superslave,

Welcome to the freedom fighters place.This is the zone that crushes the Watchtower lies and is currently freeing the slaves big time.

Every move the Wactower makes is scrutinised here ,every lie ,every false hope,every piece of hypocricy ,every double dealing and every sacrificial death dealing blood transfusion refusal is given prominence right here.So stick around and be made strong in the real truth.

From a damp Lancashire landscape.

Edmond.

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No to beat the Un thing to death, but something stinks here....

by isnrblog in

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i still can't understand what they would have to gain by being a un ngo.

some say status and others say they could gain monitarily, things to be investigated.

the staus and influence theory does make some sense.

edmond dantes

I think it gave them a certain amount of credibility when they needed to extend their operations in awkward countrys'. It gave them a key and it got them results.

This was a prime example of the Borg saying one thing and doing the opposite in order to gain more sales.I think you will find they have sat on other worldly committees. They just kept it quiet, they think the rank and file don't need to know about all the commercial aspects of running what amounts to a very large corporation.

It's all a a big scam.

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Circuit Assembly This Weekend

by united states of nothing in

well, i went this weekend and there were a few key points that i thought were pretty interesting.

one thing is that we are not to use the word 'society' any longer.

i don't know if anybody else has heard of this before but i wondered what the reason was behind it.

edmond dantes

Sounds like a Nazis regime to me .You must obey and fall into line with zee new order !

Vee have ways of making you lose all your freinds and family.

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Disfellowshipped

by LadyCCC in

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iam now as what was announced at a recent meeting that iam "no longer a jehovah's witness" all of my family and friends are witnesses so this will ailenate me from all of my friends and family.

but i feel like i don't want to go back.

i really hate the feeling of isolation and shamefulness while iam sitting in the meeting, what's the point of it all.

edmond dantes

LadyCCC,

Welcome to the escape committee .The Witless ones have given you a golden opportunity to escape so run for your life and do not look back.Eventually, over time, you will come to realise that the Watchtower business model is a load of rubbish and the longer you stay away from them the more sure you will be of the real truth, something they haven't got.

The Governing Body is like a stagnant water hole full of scum and poison infecting everyone that falls into it.

The G Body has human sacrificial blood on it's hands through their misunderstanding of the Word Of God.

Look upon this time as freedom then you will fly like an eagle to stand on the tops of mountains.

Safe journey out and God speed,

Edmond.